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Ex Wives, Step Children and Casey Anthony's Defense Team Pile on Roy KronkPosted by: YourTurnToHelp on Nov 24, 2009 Tagged in: Untagged
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Last week Casey Anthony's defense team tipped their hand on how they intended to show reasonable doubt. Unfortunately for the meter reader that found the remains of Caylee Anthony, he's become public enemy numero uno. Over the past 1 year+ I have tried to stay away from reports of Kronk about child support and other stories that were hitting the press for what seemed to be little more than attempts to write something, anything, about Caylee Anthony's case because there are just so many people hanging on the edge's of their seats waiting for information. Well, it seems these latest reports do show that Mr. Kronk does have more than black shoes and brown shoes. It appears he has issues as well.
You can read the defenses motion here bringing into light for the courts what they have found from interviewing Kronks, kid, step kid, and ex-wives and why they feel it is important to be used as evidence in the case. click here for motion regarding prior bad acts
After the defense piled on they released their supporting depositions, and from the woodwork lept Kronks past.
There's this tattooed beauty being lead through questioning to touch on all the high-points of the motion. This is the daughter of a former ex. Lot's of allegations here from Kronk watching the girl have sex (admittedly she didn't see it though she was "busy" but her boyfriend told her), that's one of a few highlights. Towards the end she even finds a way to blame Kronk of her mothers death. You know, he was such a bad guy, and she knew how brutal he was treating her dying mother, but she had him watching her in her final moments because her own daughter was away doing.... well, she doesn't really say.
Here's what Roy Kronks own son has to say about the whole situation. Apparently they had been estranged for around 10 years. The defense is using this deposition to show a time-line different from that reported by Kronk previously
Then there's this video of a deposition by Ex-Wife Jill Kerley describing her marriage to Roy Kronk. You know the usual marriage stuff like, kidnapping, duct tape, beating, stealing,..etc...
Then the other Ex-Wife Crystal Sparks describing her life with Roy. An old high school acquaintance that graduated to marriage. Great in the beginning, but like all failed marriages it wore off. Crystal began to notice that she was carrying all the burdens associated with marriages and having children. Roy was lazy, sat around and watched tv. His drinking led to arguments and verbally/mental abusive. She felt brainwashed by Roy.
watch Crystal Sparks video here
So that's the latest and greatest on Roy Kronk. So my question is;
Do you think this is enough to cause reasonable doubt?
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written by MsCarr, Tue 24 Nov 2009 13:44:10 MST
In my opinion, this is absolutely reasonable doubt... the case is full of "half-truths" or "mis-truths" as Cindy likes to put it... While we ALLLLLLLL know Casey did this, and would love to see her condemned, I know in my heart of hearts she will walk based on nothing other than reasonable doubt.
written by kristen , Tue 24 Nov 2009 15:55:10 MST
i think that this just doesn't make him a credible witness as part of the prosecution side. But as everyone says, it doesn't put him linked to the Anthony Home in anyway, so this isn't really helping or hurting this case.
written by artnut12345, Tue 24 Nov 2009 17:12:18 MST
MsCarr, I did a topic in the forum on Reasonable Doubt. Reasonable Doubt, does not mean "beyond all doubt," but what is reasonable. You can bet 12 intelligent jurors will listen & evaluate all the evidence presented against KC. Reasonable Doubt does not mean that the defense can throw out a lot of ideas & think that is reasonable, like they have done with RK. This is not reasonable, this is inept & ridiculous. imo. I have NOT read a single news report that finds it believable. The news reports are "happy" to report the news made by the defense, but who believes it?
Tony Pipitone just did an interview w/LK Baden & A Lyon's this week & couldn't even answer his questions on RK. They stated they just wanted him to be considered because of his past. That is NOT reasonable doubt. A jury won't consider this reasonable when they look at the mountain of evidence against KC Ant.
RK is not a "suspect," even thou the defense would like you to think so. He discovered the remains & will testify to that. The STATE has so much evidence we will not see until trial due to the "exceptions" in the Sunshine Law that are "too prejudicial to KC," like the "death video" Judge Strickland with held.
KC will not walk, as CA said on 48 hours, JUSTICE for CAYLEE will be JUSTICE for KC. No truer words have come from CA's mouth. When KC is convicted of this horrendous murder of Caylee, Caylee will have the JUSTICE she deserves, & so will KC. imo.
Tony Pipitone just did an interview w/LK Baden & A Lyon's this week & couldn't even answer his questions on RK. They stated they just wanted him to be considered because of his past. That is NOT reasonable doubt. A jury won't consider this reasonable when they look at the mountain of evidence against KC Ant.
RK is not a "suspect," even thou the defense would like you to think so. He discovered the remains & will testify to that. The STATE has so much evidence we will not see until trial due to the "exceptions" in the Sunshine Law that are "too prejudicial to KC," like the "death video" Judge Strickland with held.
KC will not walk, as CA said on 48 hours, JUSTICE for CAYLEE will be JUSTICE for KC. No truer words have come from CA's mouth. When KC is convicted of this horrendous murder of Caylee, Caylee will have the JUSTICE she deserves, & so will KC. imo.
written by Fran, Wed 25 Nov 2009 00:26:48 MST
I guess it just goes to show us that some people will say or do anything to get in front of the camera. The ex'es should be embarasssed. Why would they say all these things except for attention. They have no way of knowing anything about this situation. I'm sure Roy Kronk is probably a jack-ass but that doesnt prove anyting. Comon, we all know Casey did this. What a joke. I am lmao.
written by shyloh, Wed 25 Nov 2009 09:30:16 MST
I personally believe if anyone should of been tossed under the bus is Dominic Casey. After all "SOMEONE" sent him there. He was the one digging and prodding and slicing bags and tossing things around. Oh but wait. He worked for Baez, Casey, the Anthony's. Sorry. He is dying NOT to be depoed. I wonder why? I can't wait for this one. No getting out of it.
written by artnut12345, Wed 25 Nov 2009 10:32:03 MST
Shyloh, I am hoping DC gets "immunity" for telling what he know's about this case, starting Oct. 12, 2008 until the present. He was "under contract" with the ANT's whom share NO Confidentiality with Mr. Casey, as ruled on by Judge Strickland.
If he doesn't get immunity & share his information, I hope he is charged with "obstruction," sooner, rather than later.
If he doesn't get immunity & share his information, I hope he is charged with "obstruction," sooner, rather than later.
written by d27, Wed 25 Nov 2009 12:20:12 MST
This is ridiculous and has no relevance to the case whatsoever. The defense is making themselves look like fools. Of course exes and daughters of an ex would have bad things to say about him. He's an EX. I'm the daughter just wants to put the blame on someone for her mother dying, and who better to put the blame on the the ex boyfriend who lived with her at the time? I, in no way, see how this can create reasonable doubt. I feel sorry for Roy Kronk. Casey and her defense team is ruining the reputation of many innocent people just so that can TRY to get this murderer to walk free. There is nothing that connects Roy Kronk to Caylee's murder. If it had been a preacher who never did anything wrong, they would be trying to blame him for it too. Just because RK isn't perfect and has done things in the past, does not mean he killed Caylee. Everyone knows who the killer is.
written by artnut12345, Wed 25 Nov 2009 13:26:39 MST
d27, I hope the STATE "slams" the motion that BOZO filed concerning RK. I don't even know if it admissable, prior BAD acts are used by the STATE, not the defense. In this case, the defense is trying to "use the ABBC." (anybody but Casey)
We will have to see if Judge Strickland allows it.
We will have to see if Judge Strickland allows it.
written by Heike, Wed 25 Nov 2009 23:17:03 MST
Reasonable doubt? Not with me on the jury! I think the ex's were honest and I liked Crystal...Roy Kronk seems to have some consistent patterns of being an abusive partner and a bad father...but that has nothing to do with the fact that he was a meter reader covering that area. His weird hero drama may have been what made him focus on whatever he saw in Nov and follow it up...but yea, Art....how do we explain Casey's behavior and lies if she did not kill Caylee? She would not have had to lie? How do we have Caylee's body in her trunk? This is a bullshit tactic and all it proves is that Roy Kronk is not a great guy. I believe what they said about him (the girlfriend's daughter was a bit weird), but I think the rest were credible? So what? This does not make Kronk Caylee's killer? There is no evidence to lead us there, and a mountain of it that leads to Caylee.
I have faith (I have to or would go nuts!) that the jury will see the facts for what they are. ANd a tiny piece of me prays that they are more analytical and discerning that OJ's jury.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
xoxo
Heike
I have faith (I have to or would go nuts!) that the jury will see the facts for what they are. ANd a tiny piece of me prays that they are more analytical and discerning that OJ's jury.
Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
xoxo
Heike
written by ES, Thu 26 Nov 2009 06:07:52 MST
Despite the dirt they are trying to dig on Roy Kronk's character, he doesn't fit this puzzle. What motive would the murderer have for leading police to the body they placed, twice? Casey leading the police astray with her continual lies, her failure to report her daughter missing, the phantom nanny that she didn't even have an address or phone number for, her failure to display the grief and desperation that should have been evident, the stink of human decomposition in the car, the abandonment of the car, coffin flies in the garbage in her car, the hair with the death ring in the trunk, borrowing a shovel, web searches on chloroform and neck breaking. Casey Anthony - guilty as charged.
written by pjs, Thu 26 Nov 2009 13:42:14 MST
I am in agreement with most of you. I also tried to give her the benefit of a doubt but there is no way anyone else did this. Now I am not saying that someone mught have helped her.....Roy Kronk is just a nice person to give that information to everyone. You know it seems like every time nice people do something to help find a killer, they get accused!!! Come on now...People are going to stop helping FBI and police. Just because Roy was a bad husband and/or father..and called in...that sure doesn't make him a KILLER!!!! Good luck RK.I also feel that God will take care of this in his way...Just like OJ...he is getting his right now.PTL!!!
written by Dewey2Me1MoThyme, Sat 28 Nov 2009 04:10:46 MST
Reasonable doubt? You betch yer sweet bippy baby! Just as reasonable as going 31 days and never reporting your baby missing, just as reasonable as getting mugged and your child taken from you in a public park in broad daylight, just as reasonable as giving a nanny you never met a key to your home, just as reasonable as the dead body in the trunk was not GA's grand-daughter, just as ... oh I give up, not a hope in Haiti this is going to foil the case, let's go with the junk science thingy. 
written by artnut12345, Sat 28 Nov 2009 13:57:08 MST
Professor Dewey, points well taken, lol! Remember when the STATE ask for a GAG ORDER in this case? Remember how vehemently the Anthony's & the Defense FOUGHT for the right to SPEW Propaganda, I mean "their latest ideas of trying to discredit FBI findings, LYING on National Media about the known facts, laughable pizza theories, claiming KC is a wonderful mother, POLLUTING the Jury Pool?"
The accusations about RK are just more "media blitz." Everytime there is a DOC DUMP, BOZO & Circus hit the National Media to try to discredit any findings while the STATE diligently continues to gather more evidence to CONVICT their client. We will have to read many more motions on "HOW KC can't get a fair trial, wonder HOW MUCH the Anthony's & the DEFENSE have contributed to this? imo, a lot. WHY do they continue to promote "ridiculous theories" they fail in the court of public opinion? If the public doesn't believe it, the jury pool is not likely to believe it either. IS that the POINT of the defense? See what Sticks? I expect the unprofessional conduct of the defense to continue until this trial is over & they have sucessfully HELP convict their client. all, just my passionate opinion.
The accusations about RK are just more "media blitz." Everytime there is a DOC DUMP, BOZO & Circus hit the National Media to try to discredit any findings while the STATE diligently continues to gather more evidence to CONVICT their client. We will have to read many more motions on "HOW KC can't get a fair trial, wonder HOW MUCH the Anthony's & the DEFENSE have contributed to this? imo, a lot. WHY do they continue to promote "ridiculous theories" they fail in the court of public opinion? If the public doesn't believe it, the jury pool is not likely to believe it either. IS that the POINT of the defense? See what Sticks? I expect the unprofessional conduct of the defense to continue until this trial is over & they have sucessfully HELP convict their client. all, just my passionate opinion.
written by Dewey2Me1MoThyme, Mon 30 Nov 2009 01:22:24 MST
I agree artnut, I get so frustrated everytime i hear the defense screm about how the prosecution is "playing the case out in the media". This is totally false. i have yet to see any of these good people on Good Morning America, Geraldo, Larry King, et al. What the scream team is eluding to in their own twist slant of things is the sunshine law. however they would like to have those who are uneducate in the law believe the prosecution are the ones "putting it out there"?
I hope they BEG for a plea at the 11th hour and the prosecution uses the defense's own words of how casey's situation before the arrest will be compelling enough to get her off, and refuse to bargain a plea. After all, this team of misfits has done everything else to make their client look as guilty as possible, mind you they had a good head start thanks to the client herself.
One thing I have learned in my life of an arm chair sleuth, is when criminals lie, they feel a need to elaborate on those lies, and Casey is a prime example of this, as is the so called kidnapped Quin Grey. They just don't know enough to shut their pie holes. Speaking of pie ... I must go stuff my face again
Sure does beat those pork rinds 
I hope they BEG for a plea at the 11th hour and the prosecution uses the defense's own words of how casey's situation before the arrest will be compelling enough to get her off, and refuse to bargain a plea. After all, this team of misfits has done everything else to make their client look as guilty as possible, mind you they had a good head start thanks to the client herself.
One thing I have learned in my life of an arm chair sleuth, is when criminals lie, they feel a need to elaborate on those lies, and Casey is a prime example of this, as is the so called kidnapped Quin Grey. They just don't know enough to shut their pie holes. Speaking of pie ... I must go stuff my face again
Sure does beat those pork rinds
written by MichelleSavannah, Wed 02 Dec 2009 07:34:13 MST
My first thought about him was "Peeping Tom" not baby killer. IMO He may have been peeping on KC whle checking meter, saw something and followed KC to the wooded area.
written by shyloh, Wed 02 Dec 2009 08:47:46 MST
The state in my opinion will never offer a plea. They have the goods on Casey. Now she will go to the finish line. Placing the DP on the table is no game. She should of did that a year ago. Or a plea of insanity. But she isn't even insane. Well she is in my book. But that's just me.
written by shyloh, Wed 02 Dec 2009 08:49:44 MST
written by MichelleSavannah, Wed 02 Dec 2009 07:34:13 MST
My first thought about him was "Peeping Tom" not baby killer. IMO He may have been peeping on KC whle checking meter, saw something and followed KC to the wooded area.
I don't believe that for one minute or he would of came forward in June. Not 6 months later.
written by MichelleSavannah, Wed 02 Dec 2009 09:27:51 MST
Well.. I do find his stroy super strange. Don't forget there was another man in the same area and found a bag of toys only.
written by Dewey2Me1MoThyme, Wed 02 Dec 2009 23:21:09 MST
written by MichelleSavannah, Wed 02 Dec 2009 07:34:13 MST
My first thought about him was "Peeping Tom" not baby killer. IMO He may have been peeping on KC whle checking meter, saw something and followed KC to the wooded area.
I may be wrong, but I think the day of his first call was his first time reading the meters in that area, it was not his regular route. I hope someone will correct me if I'm misinformed on this.
written by KWI, Sun 06 Dec 2009 22:17:37 MST
There is something missing from the photo's of the exes..hmmmmm,
I know now! I do not see shining gold halo's over their head!
Looks to me the defense team is getting desperate, it must sure su*k to be them.
I know now! I do not see shining gold halo's over their head!
Looks to me the defense team is getting desperate, it must sure su*k to be them.
written by Dewey2Me1MoThyme, Wed 09 Dec 2009 23:07:51 MST
One thing that really struck me about the defense's so called "deposition" videos of these people is the number of edits in the videos. Was he leading their statements before turning the cameras back on? Was he editing out any parts that don't fit w/ his hair brain defense schemes? I don't recall seeing any editing done on videos put forth by the prosecution, could that be because they are seeking the truth, and Bozo is seeking attention?
written by Curious Dee, Thu 28 Jan 2010 23:22:08 MST
My first thought about him was "Peeping Tom" not baby killer. IMO He may have been peeping on KC whle checking meter, saw something and followed KC to the wooded area
very, very interesting. This could be Roy's M.O.
very, very interesting. This could be Roy's M.O.
written by Curious Dee, Thu 28 Jan 2010 23:29:54 MST
written by MichelleSavannah, Wed 02 Dec 2009 09:27:51 MST
Well.. I do find his stroy super strange. Don't forget there was another man in the same area and found a bag of toys only.
Thanks MichelleSavannah for reminding us of that. That's true.
written by Curious Dee, Fri 29 Jan 2010 14:59:43 MST
Thanks Yourturn for this article. I'm now realizing this is real. The defense will attempt to put Kronk in the hot seat.
I'm not surprised.
After watching the video depositions, I found Crystal Sparks fairly credible. She was a bit dramatic but believable. I don't think she has anything to gain by testifying for the defense except to clear her conscience maybe. We know what we know..She knows Kronk to be a liar, a wife beater, a very bad father and he likes to play fantasy games. One which caught my attention was "World of Warcraft". This brought to mind the despicable parents of Riley Ann Sawyer, Baby Grace. They liked to play it too. And I really thought Kronk was a little too old to play "Dungeons and Dragons". Both Crystal and Jill mentioned his choice of games.
But what does this mean to Casey's defense? How lucky is it for the defense, that THIS guy found Caylee? That he bragged about it to his son and family before December 11th? "He says I know where the little girl Caylee is and I'm going to go get her when the water goes down". He says this a week before Thanksgiving, according to Crystal.
Would a kidnapper be so brazen to put himself back into the situation? Unlikely, but not unheard of. Some arsonists love to return to scene and watch firemen risk their lives putting out the flames. They like the excitement. It's part of the game for them. This does sort of describe Kronk if you believe the ex-wives.
In my opinion, this may prove inadequacies in the Orlando police dept. for NOT finding her in the first place. But I agree with most people here, this doesn't put Kronk in the Anthony home stealing a laundry bag.
Since LE, LP, TM didn't know Caylee was there, how does he know she's there? Just like Chris Stutz saw Casey jogging in this area in mid-June, maybe Kronk did too. Maybe he was curious of what she was up to in this wooded lot.
All this is strange and needs to be put forth in front of the jury for whatever its worth. imo
I'm not surprised.
After watching the video depositions, I found Crystal Sparks fairly credible. She was a bit dramatic but believable. I don't think she has anything to gain by testifying for the defense except to clear her conscience maybe. We know what we know..She knows Kronk to be a liar, a wife beater, a very bad father and he likes to play fantasy games. One which caught my attention was "World of Warcraft". This brought to mind the despicable parents of Riley Ann Sawyer, Baby Grace. They liked to play it too. And I really thought Kronk was a little too old to play "Dungeons and Dragons". Both Crystal and Jill mentioned his choice of games.
But what does this mean to Casey's defense? How lucky is it for the defense, that THIS guy found Caylee? That he bragged about it to his son and family before December 11th? "He says I know where the little girl Caylee is and I'm going to go get her when the water goes down". He says this a week before Thanksgiving, according to Crystal.
Would a kidnapper be so brazen to put himself back into the situation? Unlikely, but not unheard of. Some arsonists love to return to scene and watch firemen risk their lives putting out the flames. They like the excitement. It's part of the game for them. This does sort of describe Kronk if you believe the ex-wives.
In my opinion, this may prove inadequacies in the Orlando police dept. for NOT finding her in the first place. But I agree with most people here, this doesn't put Kronk in the Anthony home stealing a laundry bag.
Since LE, LP, TM didn't know Caylee was there, how does he know she's there? Just like Chris Stutz saw Casey jogging in this area in mid-June, maybe Kronk did too. Maybe he was curious of what she was up to in this wooded lot.
All this is strange and needs to be put forth in front of the jury for whatever its worth. imo
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Bill Sheaffer said these interviews were not done "under oath," & ex-wives always have an ax to grind, are they credible, Who Knows. One of the ex's has a wrap sheet. Now, these ex-wives will be VETTED by the Media, the STATE, & the Public. Everyone else concerning this case has.
The Hinky Meter Says: Rk would have to have "access" to Caylee. RK would have to have access to the ANT home to get the laundry bag missing from the home & found with Caylee's body, the RARE Heinkal Duct Tape to put on Caylee that matches GA's gas cas, & ACCESS to KC's trunk.
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/
LK Baden said in an interview w/Tony Pipitone, that the DUH-Fense is just "doing law enforcements job!" LOL!
In case this doesn't work for the defense, they found a "search volunteer, an ANT supporter, who says the AREA was searched. T Miller has said the area was under water, he provides documentation & aerial photos, so this witness will be discredited also.
And to think L K Baden told Tony Pipitone that "SOME" of the defense "isn't doing this for Publicity!." I ask, then WHY make the entire defense team look like idiots? jmo.